January 20, 2019
In this video, YouTuber NormalBoots has a brand new series of madness, this time discussing the best of the best Nintendo GameCube games. A past episode of madness I covered compared two Zelda games, Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask. This time, the randomized bracket will be comparing Super Smash Bros Melee vs The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker. The question is, which game is the better game for the Nintendo GameCube? Discussing this was PeanutButterGamer, SpaceHamster (Jeff Fabre), ProJared, and Shane Gill of DidYouKnowGaming?, along with Forrest Lee, one of the creators of the madness series. Before really diving in, the guys decided to discuss the pros of each game, so I will put the highlights down below:
Smash Bros Melee Pros:
- PeanutButterGamer highlighted the fun of unlocking characters in these older versions of Smash Bros.
- The guys all agreed that Smash Bros Melee did have a really solid single player mode, in comparison to other versions of smash (Smash N64).
- There were a lot of different types of single player modes that included many different Nintendo IPs.
- Smash was praised as a “party fighting game” which means that Smash adds a lot of fun randomness to the game rather than just knowing a certain characters combinations of just knowing the buttons to hit. Smash has a lot of randomness and customizable features to it.
- Smash Bros Melee still holds true as a competitive Smash game and groups and organizations still use it to this day.
- GREAT MUSIC.
The Wind Waker Pros:
- Both PBG and ProJared said they were original fans of The Wind Waker and did not understand where the hate was coming from regarding the graphics.
- Although The Wind Waker was criticized originally for the art style, it still holds up to this day.
- Shane highlighted the greatness of the world Wind Waker was set in.
- Forrest went as far to say that Breath of the Wild was kind of the “full version” of what Nintendo wanted to do with Wind Waker in terms of expanding on the original open world concept.
- You had the opportunity to pick a direction and stick with it, that was the first since the original Zelda and the last before Breath of the Wild.
- GREAT MUSIC.
- The characters had great development, some of the best versions of Zelda and Ganon.
- The bosses were also very well developed and unique.
Each game also had some cons to be talked about, and the highlighted cons are here:
Smash Bros Melee Cons:
- At the time, although Smash Bros Melee had a lot of characters, there were a lot of dud characters.
- They also thought some of the clone decisions in Smash were a little weird for the time.
The Wind Waker Cons:
- Because of the original teaser that came out, a lot of people were disappointed because of the look of the graphics at the time. However, the game has been able to hold up.
- Jeff highlighted frustrations of the original game in terms of how long sailing took, especially when hunting for the Triforce. (Although the HD version fixes some of these issues, they are looking strictly at the GameCube version.)
As you can see from the lists, there were a lot of amazing things to say about both games, and the team had a harder time coming up with things they didn’t like about each of the games. Forrest had even stated at the beginning of the video that it would be difficult to choose between these two games, especially since these two games could have easily made it to the finals had the bracket been set up differently.
PBG: Wind Waker. He feels that Wind Waker could win the bracket overall. He likes Smash, but it was a difficult comparison to make between the two games, but he truly is a fan of the Zelda franchise and knew the decision for this might come down to personal preference.
SpaceHamster (Jeff): Jeff remarks that he had a lot of bond memories playing Smash Melee with friends, however, he said he would have to go with Wind Waker as his final decision because he thinks it is probably his favorite Zelda game and it holds up where he feels like Smash Melee does not hold up as well as newer Smash games whereas Wind Waker has held its own.
ProJared: Smash Bros Melee. Although he also had a very hard time deciding. He loves the Wind Waker, but he has to go with Smash because he always has a fun time with Smash, where he can’t say the same about Wind Waker and that he usually would go back and play the HD version.
Shane: Although Shane had a really hard time making decisions and comparing these two games, what came down to it for him was that he thought Wind Waker was one of the best, if not the best Zelda game, and that he doesn’t feel Melee is the best Smash game, which leads to him picking Wind Waker.
Which game do you think should have won? Let me know in the comments.
You can check out the video below or click here to watch it on YouTube. Enjoy!